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, requires some reforms to be strengthened. we are in big disagreement as to how to do it. >> that is an understatement. democrat favor tax hike within social security and medicare as well as increasing income taxes. budget committee chairman paul ryan argues part of the problem in medicare is the new healthcare law. which claims savings will materialize, and the chief actuary of medicare has the same concerns. >> there is a lot of evidence to suggest some of the payment provisions will not be sustainablsustainable in the lo. >> it pays providers including doctors lower and lower rates. foster says over time it will leave 40% of all providers in the red raising questions about whether they'll treat medicare patients. >> if at some point our payment rate to providers become less or significantly less to the cost of providing services, they either will be unwilling, or unable to continue providing services. >> last year, 51% of medicare's cost was taken out of the general revenue; meaning, half the cost of medicare was paid by borrowing money. which is why it's part of the d
not be willing or able to, seemingly, take on big tasks. >> that happened all this week. kristin is live at the white house. a lot of talk. we're one day closer to that deadline. what can we expect to hear from the president in the next hour? >> hi there, richard. we expect the president to continue to push to get a big deal. what's a big deal? about $4 trillion in deaf sigz reductions over the next decade. at the end of last week, it looked like he and speaker boehner were moving towards the same page in terms of trying to get a big deal. that fell apart over the weekend. so we expect the president to resume calls for a big deal to say now is the time to seize the moment. there will be political pain on both sides. what he means by that is the democrats will have to come to the table over entitlements, making small changes to things like social security and medicare and the republicans will need to come to the table in terms of rolling back tax break for wealthy corporations and americans. as you said, richard, he's going to hammer this point that they will continue to work until they g
today? >> this wouldn't be the big deal if this is the only day, but this is day after day the spring into the summer. then let's pile on a top of humidity. that gets to the people and aggravates everyone. this is where the center of the heat is. right over the top of the eastern half of the country with the exception not being up in the great lakes. this is already the heat index. what time is it? it's 10:00. we are at 105 already in louisville. areas of memphis, nashville and st. louis are right behind. the worst has been centered over the ohio river valley and southern indiana. later today, this is my forecast heat index. this is how hot i'm predicting it's going to get. the worst is up here with the dew points at the highest. we are thinking 110 in louisville, 110 in nashville. i've got my money on 115 in memphis as the hottest heat index in the country. it goes from oklahoma city to the east coast. this is one of the first humid days we had from new york to deep, deep baltimore, raleigh. you go down the coast with no exceptions. this is historic in oklahoma city. we now had 13 da
seal a budget deal? it doesn't sound like. they did have a big win tuesday with cut, cap and balance. still no debt deal on the table. the clock seems to be ticking very fast. our next guest is pointing the finger at president obama, calling the president clever and slick. what does he mean? we asked karl rove. nice to see you. >> great to see you. >> greta: in add's "wall street journal", you described the president's press conference a week ago you said it was a b -- buff foe performance. i telecommunication a tough of sarcasm, tell me what you mean? >> i mean ironic. it is not sarcastic, i'm being ironic. the president gave an outstanding theatrical performance. he started off by blaming others. we expected them to blame bush. he also blamed the democratic congress. saying they had runaway with the credit card. they were just doing what he was telling them to do. he insisted that others solve the problem. he said within 24 to 46 hours i demand congress give me a plan. he said the worst alternative to come out of this would be if we raise the debt ceiling without taking any steps t
casey anthony, big day. she's getting out of jail on sunday. will you be doing some commentary this weekend? or are you taking this weekend off? >> i may very well, but certainly i'll be talking about it on monday morning. >> have a good weekend, whatever you might end up doing. good to see you as always. thank you so much for being here with me in the cnn news room. i of course will be with you tomorrow and sunday. >>> the president said he's willing to think small if he has to in order to break the stalemate over raising the debt limit. also new apologies from media mogul rupert murdoch. he met with the family of a murdered teenager whose phone was hacked by his now defunct tabloid. there are fast-moving developments in this scandal. it's ungulfing his entire news empire. and as casey anthony prepares to get out of jail on sunday, will she shun the media spotlight or will she try to capitalize on her supposed fame? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> president obama back at the bully pulpit for the second time this week to make sure ameripay bill. he went bef
>>> good thursday, everybody. i'm contessa brewer covering the big news coast to coast. we begin with breaking news out of texas, where authorities have arrested an army private assigned to fort campbell, kentucky. officials found bomb-making materials in his hotel room. that arrest came after someone reportedly overheard the private threatening to stage an attack on the army post at fort hood. fort hood was the scene of a deadly shooting attack in november 2009. major nadal hassan is accused of killing 13 people and wounding dozens of others. pete williams has the latest from washington now. pete, what do you know about this arrest of the private? >> reporter: right. well, good afternoon. you saw killeen, texas on that map. that's where he was arrested. he's a private first class assigned to fort campbell, but arrested in texas yesterday and according to law enforcement officials, what happened is he went into a gun store in killeen, texas and was asking questions that the gun store owner thought was suspicious. he was also buying smokeless powder which can be used for a variety
of the need for a course correction. but weeks of negotiations have shown his commitment to big government is simply too great to lead to the kind of long-term reforms we need. >> reporter: reid says lawmakers must find a solution. >> we'll stay in session every day, saturday and sunday until congress passes legislation to prevent the united states from defaulting on negotiation. >> reporter: in chicago, key ally expressed support for the mcconnell-reid plan. >> more work to be done. joint committee can tackle it but it's responsible way out of the crisis. >> reporter: lindsey graham favors constitutional amendment but there isn't enough support in the senate. >> we have the people behind us. 72% of the american people want balanced budget. >> reporter: the president called for shared sacrifice. >> i am still pushing for to us achieve a big deal. but what i said to the group is if we can't do the biggest deal possible, then let's still be ambitious. let's still try to at least get a down payment on deficit reduction. >> reporter: but the cochair of the president's own deficit commission ha
but only after a big budget cuts, a spending cap, and the adoption of a balanced budget amendment. president obama says that he will veto that bill. >>> the loudoun county board of supervisors today is expected to vote on a plan that could lower the costs of the dulles rail project. the proposal by the u.s. transportation secretary would require the airports authority to reverse its decision and support an above-ground station. it would also require loudoun and fairfax counties to assume millions of dollars in those costs. >>> 5:05 on this tuesday. the guardian angels are taking action. >> today they will be along the metropolitan branch trail beginning today. this comes after a robbery since may. the group will join stepped up police trails in that area. critics stepped up police patrols. the you see someone suspicious, keep your distance and then contact police. >>> 7 is on your side with confirmation of a new type of crash avoidance system to reduce low speed rear end crashes. the highway loss data institute released a new study that looked at 2010 volvo's outfitted with a cras
. >> thank you. >>> speaking boehner balks as a big deal, but tonight's white house meeting is still on. today, the debt deal in pairil. and then the economy in 2012 with presidential candidate, rick santorum. >>> i am candy crowley, and this is "state of the union." hoped for a grand debt deal got buried last night in a blizzard of status quo rhetoric. the white house will not pursue a bigger debt reduction agreement without tax hikes. i think the best approach may be in producing a smaller measure. and dan pfeiffer responded, we cannot ask the middle class and seniors to bear all the costs and budget cuts. >>> joining me now, house republican whip, kevin mccarthy of california. if i am out there listening to all of this, i want to stan gul awful you. why can you not get this deal? it looks like a bargaining ploy? >> i don't think so. you would not increase taxes on the small business, which is what the president wants to do. you had an negotiation with cantor and kyl and biden. so what he's saying, let's go there, there's no taxes, and there are cuts right there, but why don't you als
's right. you know, the big point of contention yesterday was with house majority leader eric cantor pushing for this short-term deal or a series of short-term deals. the president, according to democratic sources familiar with the talks, made it clear that that is something he does not support and something he would veto. the president has, for the last few days, and certainly weeks as well, been pushing for the biggest deal possible where it it seemed to get some support. of late, it has not. the president believing if you start talking about the short-term deals, you run into the political season where you negotiate the things all over again. if you can't get this done now, how will you get this done in the thick of the political season? tense discussions yesterday. the president agitated and believing that republicans are using the debt talks to make political points. the president making the point, according to those inside the meeting, that this kind of atmosphere just confirms some of the worst fears that americans have about the way washington works. >> well, yeah. the way wa
. >>> big news about the debt ceiling talks. we might see a big shift in the negotiations. the president is going to meet with top senate and house leaders and democratic officials tell us he's prepared to put medicare and social security changes on the table. that's a big about face and it drives home the urgency of the debt situation. >> my expectation is that over the next week to two weeks, that congress working with the white house comes up with a deal that solves our deficit, solves our debt problems, and makes sure that our credit is protected. >> obama is hoping that republicans will support some tax increases or the closing of some tax loopholes or credits. that is going to be a hard sell. here's what republican senator rand paul of kentucky told cnn. >> some of the most conservative members of the senate and house will raise the debt ceiling con tint gent on three items. we want significant cuts, stater to caps like pay as you go, and then we want a balanced budget amendment. if we get these, we'll agree to raise the debt ceiling. >> democratic officials say the president wants
in iowa. she basically kicked off her bus tour in iowa today. so this is going to be a big deal for her and her supporters who are here. and later she's going to be going to an iowa cubs baseball game and talk to supporters and voters there as well. >> so she's on a bus tour, is it all iowa all the time this weekend? where is she going? apparently shannon can't hear me, we'll get back to shannon travis, he's reporteding for us live in iowa. >>> a political note for you, the presidential seal fell off the white house limousine this weekend while he was on his way to the airport. a philly police officer found the seal alongside route 76, he returned to the secret schlts. >>> closing arguments set to begin tomorrow in the murder case that has millions watching. what you can expect. the lawyers to say and what our legal expert thinks of the verdicts, we'll have that for you straight ahead. >>> also more on dominique strauss-kahn and the case against him that seems to be unraveling. is he a guilty man or is he a victim here? we're asking our expert. >>> and the royal wedding that took place
afternoon if he chooses and possibly friday. a big day for thursday morning. but at 2:15, after deliberating nine hours the jury bought what baez said during the closing argument. his clients, casey anthony could be a lawyer but she is not a murderer. >> the first-degree murder, we find the defendant not guilty, dated on the 5th day of july, 2011. and the charge of aggravated child abuse, verdict of count two, we the jury find the defendant not guilty, so say we all, in orlando, orange county, florida, 5th day of july. and as to the charge of aggravated manslaughter of a child, verdicts as to count three we fine the defendant not guilty. phil: huge tears from the eyes of casey an don't and she started to break into smiles, large smiles, like you have not seen her smile for the past three years. not publicly on camera. not a big smile but, today, an absolute celebration full of emotion, full of tears, you can see the tones -- attorneys congratulating contrasted to the prosecution table as the lead prosecutor and her two cocounsel all looked ashen in utter disbelief that despite all of the for
, more people on the beach means more people will be out here as well into the big lesson here for parents is never let your children out of your sight. live on north avenue beach. >> a maggot mile story is targeted by burglars this morning, windows were smashed and goods stolen from the louis baton store. several purses or wallets and other leather goods from the high and store were taken, some of them sell for more than $3,000. the store was closed today. a case is solved after 54 years a seven year-old vanished with a man who enticed her with the promise of a piggyback ride back in 1957 the now 71 year-old jack makaula is charged with kidnapping and murder, the former police officer was arrested at his seattle retirement home he was an early suspect is alibi had just fallen apart he said he was on a train and an ex girlfriend found the on used train ticket. this summer holiday weekend is off to a violent start three men are dead and at least 11 other people are wounded in shootings across chicago among the victims are a man and woman sitting near the van of the 8500 block t
at this hour? that is the big question that people want the answer to. the lawyers were successful disguising where she went in the overnight hours. even the press not able to keep up with her. cameras shooting this video of casey anthony walking out of the front doors of the orange county jail at 12:11. wearing pink me low shirt, hair in a bun and the primary defense attorney jose baez right by her side. they got in a motorcade, a gray suburban, a cream colored tahoe and white follow-car and drove directly from the location to a bank of of america building in downtown orlando, not far from here, where her other attorney has an office. they went in covered parking garage and pulled a bait and switch. the suv never emerged from the parking garage, but others cars did and it's not clear which one that casey anthony was in. we can tell you around the same time there was police activity across town at a private airport. a private plane was fuelled up and ready to go on the runway, but nobody saw casey anthony boarding the aircraft. officials telling us it was scheduled to carry golfers vacationin
't get licensing for all sorts of things like fishing and what not be, and it's a big recreational state. it cost the state millions in be lost revenue from lottery sales, tax audits, park fees and licensing fees, so on and so forth, but now they can go ahead. some state officials now saying, though, it may take some time to get programs back up and running so they can be moneymakers again for the state. and those 22,000 state employees can go back to work, but it's kind of a phase-in situation. so the big headline in all of this is the longest-running state shutdown in a decade in this country now has come to a close with the governor making an agreement with leading republicans in the state of minnesota. now back to you guys. jenna: hi, everybody, so glad you're joining us today, i'm jenna lee. jon: and i'm jon scott. we are here in the fox newsroom and "happening now," brand new numbers in the race for the white house. "the wall street journal" poll shows tea party favorite michele bachmann is surging. jenna: she's not the national leader, though, that title goes to mitt romney. jon:
raise the debt limit. then he asked for big tax increases. we got rid of the tax increases. now we have a bill that does what hee we said it should do, cuttings more than it raises the debt limit by. is it perfect? no. is it as much as we proposed? no. this doesn't do that. but it gets us down the right path. it's cuts we can bank right now, it's a step in the right direction. so i think it's a good step in the right direction. >> it has to get 217 votes. have you a rowdy freshmen crowd who ran on the promise of a balanced budget amendment. and the balanced budget amendment is not in the boehner bill. how do you get enough of them to get to your 217 mark and have them go home and face their voters where they promised a balanced budget amendment? >> we have a vote on the balanced budget amendment. >> separate? >> that was always the case. the second thing, cut, cap and balance had to be separate from the bill. >> balanced budget amendment. >> that's right, excuse me. this requires that the senate vote on a balanced budget amendment. we never had the assurances we could even get a vote on
think speaker boehner has been very sincere about trying to do something big. i think he'd like to do something big. his politics within his caucus are very difficult. >> well, here's what he means. in a new poll, we see the complicated political caucus they are dealing with. the number of americans who are very concerned about default has ticked up seven points in the last two months. then it was just 35% believe not raising the limit and risking default was worse than raising it and potentially spurring more spending. now 42% see greater risk in a potential default, 47% are more concerned about lifting the limit but the gap has narrowed. that gets you talking about the education of the public in the last two months. look at the republican side. the folks who have been more engaged in this debate since the outset, the numbers have only hardened. 66% of republicans are more concerned with raising the debt limit compared to 60% in may. that number rises to 75% among republicans who identify with the tea party. so this is the issue. and speaker boehner has said he would only raise the d
, this backup plan could be left as the last option standing. but the big question is always, wolf, will it pass the house? can it pass the house? and this seems to be another example of just how divided the republican party is on this issue. >> yeah, it's a huge, huge division right now. going forward, this debate, we'll see what happens. kate, thanks very much. let's check in with jack right now. he's got the "cafferty file." >> despite that nasty game of chicken going on in washington over raising the debt ceiling. congressional leaders in both parties pretty much agree that doing it is going to be necessary. the argument is over what else goes into the bill that's tying them up and bringing the country dangerously close to defaulting on some of our loans. according to a new poll, 40% do not want the debt ceiling raised and they want their members of congress to vote against any measures that raise it. only 22% want their lawmakers to vote for raising the debt ceiling. and more than 1/3 of americans say they're just not sure. when asked which is a greater concern, 51% say raising the debt cei
. republican congresswoman michele bachmann is in iowa, home to the iowa caucuses. the first big election event in 2012. cnn's shannon travis is the only reporter to speak with bachmann today, and he asked her why iowa is so important. >> iowa's the first in the nation. it's very important to be here and have a presence here because the values and the opinions that people have in iowa count. they count for the nation. so it's important that we come here. had is the bread basket of the world for a reason. this is where the food is grown, we have the best farmers in the world here in iowa. so it's important to come and listen to what people have to say in iowa and take that message back to washington, d.c. >> michele bachmann has been on a roll recently joining mitt romney in a recent iowa poll. she officially kicked off her campaign in iowa last month. >>> 4th of july celebrations in minnesota have been scaled down for this weekend. state parks, the state zoo, even race tracks are all closed right now. a budget stalemate has shut down almost all of minnesota's state business. closed signs went u
the possibility of doing something bigger. >> look, here's where things stand. there are three different big deals out there. number one is what the president and speaker boehner and eric cantor are negotiating, which is, yes, a big deal that is separate from anything the gang of six in the senate is working on. and then of course there's mcconnell-reid. one thing that's going on in the last 24 to 48 hours, is any deal that's mcconnell-reid that includes this idea of sort of the disapproval vote, giving the president more power to raise the debt ceiling, that thing has grown to the point of almost being toxic with some house republicans. in fact, they hate it so much, they may prefer to negotiate with the president directly. but for the white house, getting the 217 means making a deal acceptable to at least some of those houses with 87 new members. the man who's made himself their standard bearer, majority leader eric cantor put it this way. >> one-third of the republican conference and one-quarter of the entire house of representatives are freshmen, they're new. many of them have never served in
of those things they promisedprom s promised,ilities it's big. jane, do you agree? you have been covering it since the beginning and you have been there the last couple weeks up close and personal. >> they can get in something that is based on a reasonable inference. i think that's going topy a source of contention. i think you're going to hear a lot of objection from the prosecution tomorrow because jose jose jose baez has a reputation of trying to sneak things in and he asks kwegings that are going to be objected to. but the rules are you cannot discuss rules not talked about in evident. he shoobt be able to say that little caylee drowned in the pool in opening statements, but he could saythenings like we saw evidence that she was capable of getting into the pool herself, and cindy testified that she believed that the ladder was left in a position that would allow her to go in and drown accidentally. the devil is in the details. it's going to be a lot of nuance and a lot of debate. >> drew, as a reporter and an observer, as you're watching the faces of the people on the jury, she's sayi
to rein in big government spending and prevent tax increases. >> the majority of the house has to approve spending and that's tremendous leverage. we should use it. >> a political analyst says it has an impact on how far g.o.p. speaker john boehner can go in debt negotiation. >> the existence of the freshmen linked creditability to john boehner when he says there are not enough votes for tax increase. >> reporter: president obama is also feeling the pressure from the left flank saying that social security and medicare may need modification to sustain them for the future generation. >> if there is a reasonable deal to be had on it, one i'm willing to pursue. >> that got a strong pushback from nancy pelosi and other liberals. >> today, the democratic women of congress have come together to send a clear message. we must protect medicare and social security. we will not support cuts. >> reporter: if there are cuts to the program in a final deal, it will be a tough sell to the president with the liberal base, which sees itself as cardigan of the entitlement. molly henneberg, fox news. >> shann
discussion for their big senate plan, which the president likes, but it is not the president and the senate who need to get together to decide this thing. it's the president and the senate and the drunk kids at the other end of the building who are setting their barbies on fire and cooking metal in the microwave until it explodes. watch it burn! watch it burn! honestly, time for a reality check here. house republicans are not trying to drive a hard bargain and get the best deal possible. house republicans do not want to raise the debt ceiling. for anything. they would please not like to raise the debt ceiling. they would like to go into default, thank you very much. house republicans have been actively making that argument for weeks now that hitting the debt ceiling, oh, that won't hurt a bit, who cares? republican congressman mo brooks of alabama told the washington post this week that on the contrary, all credit rating should be improved by not raising the debt ceiling, which is like saying you're looking forward to how that sledge hammer is going to improve your dental work. another cong
sponsored by comedy central >> jon: welcome to the "daily show." my name is jon stewart. got a big show for you tonight. bill kristol, editor of "the weekly standard," will be joining us. he's a fox news contributor. yet, yet, i hope to talk to him about a less contentious issue than that, like afghanistan. all right. ( laughter ) what a show. we're going to start with something that i found on the tv box this morning that was maybe one of the greatest things i've ever seen in my life. >> mark halperin. what was the president's strategy? >> are we in the seven-second delay today? >> oh, lordy. >> i want to characterize how i thought the president behaved. >> we have it. we can use it, right, alex? >> yeah, sure, come on. >> go for it. >> i thought he was kind of a dick yesterday. ( laughter ) >> jon: mark halperin, senior political analyst, editor at large of "time" magazine just called the president a dick. and that wasn't like a spontaneous, like, can't contain myself, you lie! like this one, you guys have a delay because i'm going to call the president a dick. now, people can argue w
the cloud-- big clouds, small ones, public, private, even hybrid. your data and apps must move easily and securely to reach many clouds, not just one. that's why the network that connects, protects, and lets your data move fearlessly through the clouds means more than ever. >>> jack cafferty is here with "the cafferty file." >> in 2008 president obama promised to get all troops out of the iraq by the end of this year. after winning the presidency, he vowed to keep that promise. now is the deadline for military withdrawal approaches, he's apparently prepared to break that promise. gee, what a surprise. he's offering to leave 10,000 troops in iraq indefinitely. the white house says it's concerned that the planned pullout at the end of the year could spark violence and trigger militant attacks there. and don't forget all that oil. any extension of u.s. military presence depends on a formally request from the iraqi government. so far no request has been made, but the pentagon wants to give the prime minister and his government time to decide, so if they need the help, there's time to plan
. the big question, though, is for the prosecution team, what did they do potentially wrong here, because they were certainly very confident in their case. here is lamar lawson. >> we're disappointed with the verdict today and surprised, because we know the facts, and we put in absolutely every piece of evidence that existed. our attorney did an exemplary job. i'm proud of them and i stand by their work. i never, ever criticize a jury. theirs is the task of deciding what to believe. >> reporter: the prosecutor also said that what really hampered the case was the frequent that -- fact that the decomposition, the six months it took to find caylee's remains, really hampered the prosecution because they lost so much crime scene evidence, fingerprints, perhaps they may have found on the duct tape and the laundry bag, phil. -- bill. bill: fel keating, thank you. alisyn has more. alisyn: we need to talk more about these jurors. they left immediately after the reading. remember this was after six weeks of being sequestered and finish of -- none of them wanted to talk about their momentous decisio
position. that if big spending cuts are agreed upon the federal debt ceiling should be raised for the good of the nation. it's the same thing that happened three years ago when president bush told the country the economy was about to collapse because the financial industry was going under. some americans didn't believe that but all the evidence says it was true. that the feds had to bail out the financial industry and that's what happened. same boat, different year. you can imagine what the worldwide markets will do if the u.s.a. defaults on obligations in august. all of us will suffer economically because foreign investors would begin to pull their money out of america. the dollar would plummet along with stocks. so a deal must get done. but president obama is making a huge mistake in trying to raise taxes now. why bother with that? just campaign on your economic position, mr. president. and if you get reelected you can raise taxes later. on the g.o.p. side, we need tax reform desperately in this country. we need to raise more revenue in smart ways. perhaps a 1% national sales tax. that c
, you know, her not testifying to all of the things that was promised is big, and the jury is going to want to know why. >> jane velez-mitchell, you have been there covering the trial since the beginning and watching for the last couple of weeks up close and personal. >> well, they can get in something based on a reasonable inference, so i believe that is going to be a source of contention. i believe you will hear a lot of objection from the prosecution tomorrow, because jose baez has a track record of trying to sneak things in with inference, and asking questions that he knows are going to be objected to, and that objection is going to be sustained, and he doesn't care. he does it anyway. but the rules are, again, that you cannot discuss facts not in evidence, so jose baez should not be able to say, little caylee drowned accidentally in the pool, as he did in opening statements, but he might be able to say, we saw evidence that little caylee was capable of getting into that pool herself and cindy testified that she believes that the pool ladder was left in a position that would hav
a storm in the southern suburbs and big storm swirling apply what tonight part of the brink of fire pattern blazing heat down state stores are running or around the red look at the temperatures at this hour still 94 in st. louis. temperature for a while but up to 97 ended hit 94 and 18th day today at midway airport all states in red under advisories for heat so that could fuel a the storms here is the one producing the lightning display in the southern suburbs here come the storms across iowa 2 in. of rain 63 mi. per hour wind of reported 59,000 ft. clouds moving east bound not don't to be alone there will be other ones come in this week at a very active pattern. on ground saturated by heavy rains 3 1/2 inches not far from what he did. you can see the 1 49th at rockford in four minutes' time 55 hundreds of an edge, here is how the rain came through 7:00 this morning mainly in the northern suburbs. this area up north area had two-3 in. of rain by the way it rainfall of 55 hundreds of an inch in four minutes at that caught up for an hour it would have trained at the intensity of a hu
, some real big news, actually, because speaker boehner, it seems, may have a plan that will come to fruition, before 4 p.m. this afternoon so that the asian markets aren't rattled and it will involve sort of a two pronged approach. >> yeah, but the most important part of the two step process clayton mentioned there's going to be a short-term extension involved and the democrats have objected to that, as you know, from the very beginning, the president, nancy pelosi, harry reid all three last night reiterating they will not support a short-term extension. so it appears we are playing with some serious fire on this sunday. >> what does john boehner do, comes up and hands over the paper work, they immediately say no. listen to this, thises what mitch mcconnell has to say about this. there is bipartisan agreement on the need to prevent fault and given the unprecedented size of the debt ceiling increase, the president is requesting, this is not an easy process. and the effort to prevent default while substantially reducing washington spending will continue. >> of course, all of the co
. and they feel that the democrats have an ideological commitment to big government. what they would like to see is the government sweated down. that's the point they've been trying to make. there are honest differences and people have a very different view of what kind of society we ought to live in. >> but at a certain point, david, when there was a big deal on the table and if as you say the president could have brought nancy pelosi along -- i agree with you i think he could have -- the republicans would have gotten a great deficit reduction deal if they hadn't committed to the no tax pledge, right? >> but gloria, asking any party to commit to $1 trillion of tax increases is an awful big deal for a party that all along stood for lower taxes. and when they also feel a lot of these cuts are going to turn out to be illusory. their experience in the past they sign onto the bargains and they feel the democrats eventually end up getting what they wanted and what they wanted never materializes. >> there's a big difference between that and nothing. >> i agree. [ overlapping speakers ] >> so david, wh
guns on something he's done his entire presidency, which is when there's a big bill that needs to get through congress, whether health care, whether the stimulus or whether this, he lets congress handle the details. he doesn't present his own legislation. he doesn't say here's my plan. let's amend from this. it's instead, trying to let's grab a piece here, let's grab a piece there. let congress do all the talking. we'll see. it is one of those debates that takes place among folks that observe this president from the outside wondering why does he keep doing it this way. who will win the battle long term? john boehner and harry reid teed up that fight yesterday. >> two groups of people from two different planets who barely understand the language of the other one. they're two remarkably different visions for what the appropriate role of the government should be in our society. how our country operates. it's stark and it would shock most americans. >> any time around here with the new tea party philosophy, they seem to think they have an all-knowing wisdom about the constitution. in shor
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